Tell us about your apprenticeship

The NSW Government is considering making some pretty big changes to apprenticeships and some of the changes look pretty scary.

* Could you survive a 'casual' apprenticeship?

* Should apprenticeships require on-the-job training?

* Will fast-track courses affect salon safety?

To help us make our submission, what would you change about apprenticeships?

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  • commented 2016-12-06 09:22:56 +1100
    Hi I hope the stupid pollies get a shit house hair cut from one of these very unqualified so called cutters!!!! It would serve them right, as you cannot learn cutting with 12 week course! In my former work place the new owner did this such course,and boy have I been told about her disgusting work!!!!
  • commented 2016-11-07 23:47:30 +1100
    Ive had it with hairdressing. Discusting trade with no proper union . Im over it
  • commented 2016-10-27 09:31:11 +1100
    i am interested in starting an apprenticeship as it is my dream to become a hair dresser
  • commented 2016-10-27 09:30:43 +1100
  • commented 2016-10-27 09:30:42 +1100
  • commented 2016-09-22 19:42:02 +1000
    Hairdressing apprenticeship shoud be tafe trained , they need the experience of classroom based theory and practical as for on the job training they do not get enough time for this to happen in the salon and the focus is not there

    36months for a hairdressing is not long enough as it is, they are still not experienced once completed.

    Casual apprenticeships are not a good idea as the productivity is not there and there would be ataff coming and going as clients generally like going back to the same person
  • commented 2016-09-20 12:03:00 +1000
    Do the government want to destroy the hairdressing apprentice????
  • commented 2016-09-20 11:34:46 +1000
    I have been in the hairdressing industry for six years. My apprenticeship was the worst time of my life. For the first two years I was stuck washing hair and scrubbing the floor and polishing the brass foot rests. I felt like Cinderella with evil bosses. I practiced on dolls heads and begged my boss to teach me. Her response was to watch and learn. The next three years only got worse. No one would hire me as an apprentice. And if they did the only bagged me out because I was never going to be good enough for them. Discriminated by how I dress, how I do hair, my eagerness to learn. Many times I wanted to stop what I love doing. But I kept going. Though when asked by young girls if they should do hairdressing I’m always hesitant to say yes because of how I was treated. The pay was horrid when I started. I worked 7am till 5pm five days a week for a measly $200! I never thought I would be saying this, but we need to stand up for those with no voice, those young teens starting there career with no clue what to do or say, those students whiling to learn. It’s not fair to be treated like a tossed up newspaper. And the sad thing is that most bosses will treat you how they once where treated. Did they forget what it was like? Have they forgotten the endless tears, long hours, studying, the long awaited forms and sighs offs….

    We need to do something to help those with no voice. We need to train, to show and teach them.
  • commented 2016-09-19 08:34:25 +1000
    Better communication system between RTO, employers and apprentice.
  • commented 2016-09-19 07:31:10 +1000
    They need both take and salon training. Also more phycology subjects as we have to deal with a lot of people’s problems and we need more training in this area.
  • commented 2016-09-17 21:09:03 +1000
    We need to bring back the 4 yr apprenticeship, so we can go back to being a highly trained and skilled profession. Apprentices need to be more educated in the basic fundamentals of hairdressing,with more knowledge in the science of hair, skin and chemicals.

    Fast tracked courses could potentially cause a lot of problems within the salon.

    We need a higher pay rate ,as for all the updated training we need to do to keep up to date.we are nearly earning the same as working in a supermarket , not to mention the long hour and on your feet all day.

    We can not be a professional industry with the way the government is treating us.
  • commented 2016-09-17 07:12:00 +1000
    Make sure that the person you are signed up to as an apprentice is actually able to teach you I work with 3 seniors and they all have no idea how to teach !!!
  • commented 2016-09-16 22:06:41 +1000
    I believe that the apprentice time needs to be longer. Should go back to 4 years as not many stylists out there have enough training & skill to be fully qualified. My apprentice went for 3 years & I asked my employers if I could extend it 6 months extra for more training so I could be a confident & professional stylist. Also the training at tafe really needs to change also.
  • commented 2016-09-16 18:40:30 +1000
    Leave the apprenticeships alone we have lost our professional training now all the fast tracking why the government think we are not professionals there cutting out the science perming we are going backwards with out the training form TAFE we where known as the best trained hairdresser’s in the world not now stop cutting corners leave us alone you have done enough damage to our trade
  • commented 2016-09-16 18:36:28 +1000
    Leave the apprenticeships alone we have lost our professional training now all the fast tracking why the government think we are not professionals there cutting out the science perming we are going backwards with out the training form TAFE we where known as the best trained hairdresser’s in the world not now stop cutting corners leave us alone you have done enough damage to our trade
  • commented 2016-09-16 17:59:24 +1000
    Our Hairdressing apprentices need to be properly trained to protect their integrity & that of this wonderful profession.
  • commented 2016-09-16 17:23:39 +1000
    Bring back 4 year apprenticeships and lockstep training.
  • commented 2016-09-16 14:58:56 +1000
    As most apprentices are young a strong on job training & mentoring is essential for them to become great creative hairdressers. They need stability & most of all strong work ethics & casual unstable work hours will not give them a great start.
  • commented 2016-09-16 12:45:38 +1000
    I would like to see more secure employment for apprentices and more on-the-job training would be very effective.
  • commented 2016-09-16 12:35:38 +1000
    More training for Hairdressers using chemical products . Extra wage for these skills. More training foe health and safety.
  • commented 2016-09-16 10:45:11 +1000
    Apprenticeships should be kept as they are with no fast tracking for safety issues
  • commented 2016-09-16 09:50:02 +1000
    I would change my training hours. Im a third year apprentice and still not on the floor because no one will train me in the areas I need to be trained in. If you cut the hours down no one will be trained properly and the hairdressing industry will go under.
  • commented 2016-09-16 07:18:51 +1000
    A hairdressing apprenticeship should be learnt over 4 years. Not crammed or rushed into 3.

    There is a lot to learn over that time not only in the salon but study also.

    I think apprentices get used a lot. There should be set hours per week that the salon has to spend with the apprentice to train them correctly. The salons are being paid an incentive from the government to train them but this often isn’t the case. Apprentices are used as cheap labour and not given the time they deserve.
  • commented 2016-09-16 06:50:46 +1000
    more monitoring of how apprentices are being used too many leaving the industry because employers are too tough and cruel.

    there needs to be more workshops that are affordable

    make it shorter and give the kids something to look forward to at the moment most are used as cleaners so lots more supervision of employers
  • commented 2016-09-16 06:28:04 +1000
    No casual apprenticeships, more Tafe training , more in salon training
  • commented 2016-09-16 05:08:53 +1000

    • more in salon training.

    • more funding for apprentices.

    • bring back the tool Allowance.

  • commented 2016-09-15 22:16:11 +1000
    Our industry needs to go back to a 4 year apprenticeship ,fast tracking is creating unqualified senior stylists ,its hard enough to get well trained staff ,so our apprentices need lots of in salon training and this can only be done on a full time basis ,there also needs better incentives for the employee and employer .
  • commented 2016-09-15 22:11:40 +1000
    apprentices need more training and skills not less our industry’s future is at stake.

    Imagine trusting someone with little skills to fulfill your requirements and shape the way you look and feel about yourself. Training hairdressing apprentices means a lot more than you think
  • commented 2016-09-15 22:09:18 +1000
    More training hands on practical, no less than 2 years of Tafe! This fast track or casual is crap , not professional at all. It’s a very skilled profession. In 42 yrs of hairdressing , I always went back to Tafe many times to gain more skills & licences. It takes good training by very skilled people to be the best.
  • commented 2016-09-15 21:15:12 +1000
    apprentices need more support and encouragement tp pursue a career path in the hairdressing industry.

    -compulsory training with RTO providers inside and outside the salon to ensure diversity currency in an ever changing and demanding customer based industry for a minimum of 2 years and 1 year in salon supervised.

    -better wages to ensure they are able to survive in the economic climate (they need to pay for training and tools and equipment)

    -employers pay their course fees to ensure they continually support and complete their training at the nominated RTO

    -better allowances for overtime and meals

    -increase pay rates once you are competed and are a tradesperson, as this is a major obstacle the industry faces. (once you are qualified you are still in such a low wage bracket for your time and hard work)